Week of June 15th

[{Ru}Bubba]

ummm... no idea what your talking about as far as the whole margarite and goren thing lol, im not farming any kind of mission, im farming the hidden city itself lol, it does suck having to bring a bonder monk though,well, not having to per se, i could use my 55 monk build just 600/smite is faster.Sometimes i can get another monk to tag along as a smiter and it goes ALOT faster, last guy got 8 essences in 2 runs lol.

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

[{Ru}Bubba]

typed alot of crap here trying to explain about the djinn, then i though, why not a pic? lol this is the room where you spawn in at, this is where most ppl farm at, sometimes i go on into the explorable a bit to get more djinn, but it's not time efficient lol.the pic is in NM but i farm in HM for the extra drops lol.Takes about 3-4 mins to clear the entire room.Note the 8 saphire djinn

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

they say a pic is worth a thousand words. Yep it looks like plenty of djinn. But thats what I was afraid of there, I was hoping there would be groups of saphire djinn by themselves.now for the part I like to do the best. That being the math. there are 8 saphire djinn out of the 16 djinn in that screenshot. SO the odds of getting your drop when you kill the saphire djinn vs the other djinn, is at 50%, and then out of that 50% or 4 djin, the odds of getting the saphire essence to drop is even lower yet, PLus the time it takes you to kill everything. Ive killed 6 saphires djinn on a run without getting a essence, but it only takes 2 minutes. SO repetitive 2 minute runs of just killing saphire djinn is far better odds than your odds of getting essences from your long run having to kill everything. Not that the run doesnt look fun. I just like crunching numbers and playing the odds. Its anal I know. But I have to do it. Its a compulsion. I need help.lol

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

Well, I've yet to get all of mine as of Wednesday.. so if you have any to spare Bubba I'd appreciate it. I only have 2 out of an unknown number of runs. It's kinda funny you mention killing the other Rubies etc. Slayer.. because as soon as I'd swing out of my way to kill one of them they'd sure enough drop a Ruby Essence.. and I'd instantly think.. I just forked myself out of the drop I needed.

[{Ru}Bubba]

well, in my personal belief, as soon as you spawn into an area all the monsters are set with what they are gonna drop, regardless of what order or what else you kill,they may not be the way it is,but i do know its probably easier to prgram them that way instead of haveing a random drop generator that runs each time an enemy is killed,although in hind sight, that may be why you almost always get less drop if you kill alot at once,maybe the generators cant keep up that fast? hmm...i dont have enough of a programming knowledge to know for sure, i may do some checking on it if i dont get too lazy lol, on a personal note i finally got my engine in my truck put back together with full competition crank shaft and gears, true duel exhaust and all, runs like a sewing machine for now lol.

[{Ru}Bubba]

ok,after timing 4 runs, as long as there are no more than 1 diamond djinn per side i can do the run in 3 mins, with a hero, with a real person its alot faster

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

[{Ru}Zog]

Sorry to interrupt the discussion but i was wondering what Vent server do you guys use now? I popped on both saturday night/sunday morning and see Beers is up and running again, i also stopped on the freebie one, but didnt see anyone on either server. And now back to your regularly scheduled program

[{Ru}Bubba]

if beers is back up and runing, I make a motion to quit using the freevent and start using beers again, any seconds?

[{Ru}Zog]

Seconds! ...thirds?

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

well i would say thirds. but we havent heard from him in awhile. i know he was playing a differnt game with some friends for awhile.id hate to use his slots if hes using it for something else. but otherwisem id be game to going back

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

Thanks Zog for mentioning that!!! I'll call Beer this evening and let him know we've been using another one. Also I'll check in on 'em. They will close the nearby Quebecor printing plant the first week of July here so I hope he's doing ok job wise. I'll let you guys know if I get in touch with him or not. Last time I called, I left a message with no response.