Dead birds falling out of the sky = End Times?

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

Yes.. you've seen it in the news.. and now here it is! THE topic we've got to discuss. Is this a SIGN? or a sign to just avoid phone booths with black and white film movies.

I find it alarming that people are ignorant enough to dismiss it with fireworks killed 'em or lightening did it.. etc. I don't know about you.. but I've *never* seen birds fly into a storm or swoop in by the thousands to fight back at the explosion of fireworks. Believe me.. I've seen some pissed off blue jays that had a death wish before too.. and the clever crow that's looking to get even or cause trouble as well.

Now.. do I think that the end is near.. not exactly but I do think something is happening that we don't understand. I'm worried that this might have something to do with the solar flares from the sun and our magnetic poles may be about to shift N -> S and S -> N. It happens about every 250 thousand years and we're now overdue for this to happen according to geologic records in the sea floor spreading data samples. Humm.. anyway, it's a good discussion topic. Comments anyone? Have you seen any dead fish or birds in your area? In Kentucky a hairless racoon was shot and killed. Not sure what that means.. but that's another oddity of late.

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

nothing is happening out of the normal. This is nothing more than media manipulation once again.With the end of the mayan calender coming next year, then end of the world is news that turns heads and boosts ratings. Theres been mass bird deaths every year for the past 10 years. Its just not reported. Its sort of a norm. theres been alot of that in the Mississippi Valley areas for many years. But back then the end of the world wasnt suppose to be coming so it wouldnt be a good story. Now every war, every hurricane, every volcano, every earthquake is a sign that the end is near. WHat a joke. Most people turn to comedy central for a good laugh. I turn it to headline news.

yeah the hairless racoon. the Chupacabra. ANother good laugh. just another freak genetic thing.

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

Yeah I agree on the racoon.. but disagree on the birds topic. I am well aware that mass deaths occurr.. I'm thinking like the dophins/whales etc. I have seen several birds but nothing like this in a 2-3 week span. I also can agree that the media is hyping it up and it does play into the 2012 paranoia just like the Y2K bug. Again, I'm not so quick to dismiss it due to the frequency in a short time frame. The thing is.. it's only birds and fish.. no mammals have died/been reported.

I'm still thinking that the solar flares and the magnetic pole shift is something that's coming. Did you know that the magnetic poles have already been moving .. err.. wobbling around is a better term to describe it. I really feel sorry for Santa because he's better off in a mobile home since the North Pole is on the move as well..

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

well I wont deny that solar flares affect our planet in a variety of ways. But killing off birds and fish, Nah. as for the magnetic polar shift. I thought thats been happening for a many years now at a slow rate, but I havent researched that very much. Whats much more believable is someone had released a new airborn bacterial strain into the air thats killing the birds or maybe martians are shooting there ray guns at them.lol

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

[{Ru}Bubba]

Well, i guess it depends if we are talking about a magnetic pole shift or a cataclysmic pole shift. A magnetic pole shift is said to occur about every 300,000 years, and considering the last one to occur was 780,000 years ago, its safe to say we are overdue, but have been for some time. At most they theroize that it may affect some migratory animals but that would probably be the extent of it. From what ive read they take upwards of 5,000 years to complete once it starts, though again its all theory since obviously no one was around to see over 3/4 of a million years ago. Part of what i read i included a link to in case you want to check it out. what i found to be neat is the possibility of temporarily having 3 or 4 magnetic north and 3 or 4 magnetic south poles at the same time could you imagine the headache that would cause? lol
Now, that being said, a cataclysmic polar shift on the other hand would seriously screw us all up, thats where the poles dont reverse magnetically but where they physically move x amount of miles permanatly, not just temporary like with the magnetic reversal, but that requires an outside source to knock the earth out of whack, it would be interesting to live thru though.. watch the sun race across the sky and have your 96 degree day become twilight and snow start falling ( kinda like it is outside atm, i had hoped we were thru with the snow lol) . Ahh this topic lead me into alot of very interesting reading. Part of what i found out is that the mass animal deaths are becoming more and more frequent at an alarming rate, some are saying its the methane gas released from fault lines that kill off the birds but it sounds a lil too conveinant for me to believe.


http://www.dailycommonsense.com/what-is ... ift-thing/


and for the catclysmic part...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_shift_theory

[{Ru}Zog]

The "experts" have said that this has happened a good number of times in the past. But still kind of odd that there's been 3 -5 separate reportings in such a short time. As i think Lordy said (i didnt read all those long posts lol) it will probably be called by all the conspiracy theorists as another example of the end of times or something along those lines. I'm sure Jesse Ventura will probably do a show on it in next seasons "Conspiracy Theory" show that he does lol. It's an interesting topic though nonetheless.

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

the link bubba posted says it all. I didnt even go to the site or read the article. The words im talking about in the link is "theory" Everybody has a theory. ANd unfortunatly,theres far to many people who buy into these theorys and take it as fact. im all about fact,science and proof.its cool to think there are aliens, or talking about our catastrophic end. Sure it makes interesting coversation and Great news. Maybe we need to get H.G wells III to make a alien invasion broadcast on national radio to wake people back up again. I dont buy into hardly any of these pole shifts or reversed pole shifts or blah blah blah. I laugh when some nutcase scientists say that these happen every 350,000 years and we are over due. Maybe they happen every 600,000 years.. how the heck to they know. and if it does happen. They have a theory about what will happen. well they could be wrong.Hell our sun might burn out tomorrow.But dont tell that to some scientists. they will tell you are sun is 4.5 billion years old and it still has another 4.5 billion years left. yeah. Thats the number I came up with too when I pulled out my ruler and randomly pushed some numbers on my calculator.bottom line, you have to quit with the southern paranoia and come to grip with us level headed and reality based Northern type.lol

[{Ru}Bubba]

In my defense its all but impossible to play devil's advocate for both of yall lol.

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

The scientific evidence from the sea floor spreading cores are not every 700k years. If you pulled that from a wiki that's been typed up by someone like you or especially Slayer (i.e. I don't believe it so I'll make it up). According to the core samples pulled it doesn't take 5000 years to switch either. Now that doesn't say that it's not more or less each time it happens.

Paranoid? Not hardly.. dead birds were just found here where I live as well. Regardless, the birds do not die off like this normally every year or once a decade etc. It's *NOT* normal. I don't see humans just suddenly drop dead in a city or a country en mass (except zombie flics.. another story) and if it did, wouldn't you say that's abnormal Slayer?

[{Ru}Lord_Slayer]

well i guess i cant argue with southern intelect.lol/ you just believe what you need too,and ill continue living my normal life,in my normal world ,laughing and shaking my head when i think about this paranoia conversation.

[{Ru}EINHANDER]

I'm sure Ventura will be calling you up Slayer for your 'expert' opinion.

All-in-all it's just a conversation about something that's interesting to discuss as well as an odd topic. I can completely respect that you are of the opinion that it's nothing unusual or out of the ordinary. My thoughts are that I don't easily dismiss this with out some thought on the why, what, where, when or how of the topic. I'm not saying I'm right but I don't think I'm so wrong in saying that something's "not quite right." Think of the slanty eyed Chinese guy with a thick accent and say it.. "not quite right."

Oh.. and just so you know that I'm a good sport about our topic... I wanted to give you something that even I cannot help but laugh/smile at every single time I hear it while playing Left4Dead 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zG-w3XwgEE @ 2:05 you'll laugh your ass off. Oh.. and 4:42ish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gPWjiWX ... re=related (after about 1:00 there are more game lines)

[{Ru}Bubba]

ill chewck your links tomorow ein, too late to try to now lol. Just wanted to say that after talking with about 20 ppl at work there is clearly a line being drawn between the factions, curiously enough the more religious ppl i talked to say its all a sign of the end of days, about 8 ppl, some had no freaking clue what i was talking about and just gave me very strange looks, bout 4 ppl, the other 8 are obviously yankees cause they share slayers viewpoint thats its all common every day happenings that are getting sensationalized by the media. Excuse the yankee comment slayer, but honestly i think a couple of the 8 are actually from up north, which makes me wonder if its just a diffrent mindset than the mid-west or south? I wish we had a more widespread demographic to survey but meh i take what i can get